I watched Ms. Harrison's Instagram video on this after reading your post.
She actually tries to argue that she didn't want to play on the men's side because she didn't like the culture.
Really. The culture. That's funny, that never stops the men from invading women's spaces.
It's almost like she knows she's not a man and didn't want to get her neck broken by a player who outweighs her by over 100 pounds because "trans" is a fraud...
Male forcing inclusion into women’s sport is bad enough.. it is so much worse when they are essentially welcomed by sportswomen who don’t seem to understand the consequences. Despite your explanation re:hockey players, it still makes me angry that some women just proudly and loudly ‘give up’ women’s leagues to men (who already have their own league- obviously). Handmaidens are the worst..
Once again, Sarah writes with clarity and humor about the ridiculousness of men in women’s sports. But as she points out, sadly, it will be the choir that reads this.
Same thing is happening with US Rowing. Kicking and screaming they have adopted a policy that contains a few loopholes, but almost says no men competing in the female category. It is written with such contempt, that the moment the opportunity arises, they will say come on back boys!
You would think the fact that men have 60% more upper body muscle than women would enter into this discussion, but apparently many no longer concern themselves with reality. Cross-sex hormones don't eliminate the massive differences in upper and lower body muscle, or the fact that men have larger hearts, lungs, and more hemoglobin.
While these physical advantages are all true and relevant, trans activists can turn fairness on its head by using pseudoscience or arguing that one particular man who claims to be a woman is such a crap athlete he has no advantage. I prefer to go upstream—he's male. Thus ineligible for the female category
For those not familiar with the NWSL (US women's pro soccer) standards for allowing females on a PED, testosterone, who identify as male, to compete in the women's league is that their T level must be within "typical limits of women athletes." But guess how they define that. It must be below 10 nmol/L, which is the level trans-identified males must meet to compete in the NWSL, a level about 4+ times greater than the actual normal T levels for females.
And do you know what the biggest verbalized complaint about these rules is? It's that allowing females to have T at 10 nmol/L provisions only applies to females who identify as men, but don't apply to "nonbinary" females. Unbelievable.
The anti-woman, anti-reality, anti-science zeitgeist in women's sports is eye-watering. And that the most vigorous proponents and policers are women is just beyond comprehension
"Hockey is one of those sports where the culture between the men's side and the women's side are so deeply different. I do not feel comfortable playing on the men's side because of the culture of homophobic, transphobic, misogynist language and practices within that space. Could you imagine a trans woman walking into a male beer league? How do you think that they would be received?"
Female realizes males are violent, and at the same time, flaps her jaw nonstop that women should gladly accept those same males into their sports and spaces. And as a bonus, women should also not care that women like her who dope are playing in the women's league. Women's hockey should be a dumping ground for men and dopers. The lack of self-awareness is staggering
Right. So, while any defense of women’s-only teams is deemed a mortal sin because said defense is declared “transphobic” (not even true) and, therefore, must be challenged and stamped out because it’s evil, similarly challenging the (likely true) transphobia, homophobia and misogyny of men’s teams is unthinkable. It’s accepted without question as an unalterable reality that must be worked around. The work around? Stripping women of their single-sex sports teams. This same line of reasoning is used to strip women of single-sex prisons, because men’s prisons are simply too violent against trans-identifying males, and so those males should be allowed in women’s prisons. Gender identity ideology extends privileges to men while demanding absolutely nothing from them AS men. Women, on the other hand, are pilloried for not giving away the store. The engine of gender identity ideology is sexism.
Yep, men are seen as unchangeable and unmanageable (except for those who claim to be women) and that's why women must accept men in all spaces and services designated for women.
Women's role is to accommodate and support everyone else. Same as it ever was. 😔
Great post. Is the hockey situation re: males in women's sports really much different than women's soccer.
I'm not a big soccer fan in general, but women's soccer mouthpieces say the exact same stuff you write about, and non-compliant players receive similar vitriol from fans and teammates. Plus, soccer has a huge issue with 5-ARD DSD players that the inclusion fanatics defend are women players to their dying breath.
This is not meant to be a criticism of your outstanding post in any way; it's more of any FYI for your readers that the insanity you describe in women's hockey isn't just happening in hockey. Thanks again!
Yes, the press conference to denounce a pro soccer player who had the unmitigated gall to say women's soccer was for women does fall into the Unhinged category. So, yes, this bizarre anti-woman sentiment in women's sports exists universally. The hockey brand of self-loating just seems so widespread and virulent, it includes women (females) who are doping on T, and, maybe not justifiably, men playing in women's hockey seems even more dangerous and unfair than most sports.
All one needs to know…trans identified men “are women” (not) and so should play with the women, but trans identified women who “are men” (not) should also play with the woman. What’s good for the goose is not good for the gander apparently. Or in other words, two sets of contradictory rules for trans identified players based totally on their sex.
Here’s the thing…trans (gender identity) should not be a protected status when it comes to accessing spaces reserved for the actual opposite sex. Sir, you may choose to live as you like, but you are not an actual woman with access to female defined spaces and sports. Now get on with your life.
I find this cultural difference between men’s sport and women’s sport fascinating. In Australia in AFL it’s only the women’s game that has a pride round. Just ignore the elephant in the room that this means supporting men competing in women’s AFL (looking at you Callum). I think there’s just a single pride game in the men’s league. Weird. I was reading an infuriating article by some sports journalist yesterday about Renee Richards and AB Hernandez, to put it politely, I wanted to pay $11 just so I could disabuse the writer of his misconceptions. He had accused people of becoming irrational because a middle-aged woman was beating younger women (Richards was in his 40s in his playing heyday) and poor AB, sport saved his life and now these bitches are tryna kill him, just cause he’s a better girl. These guys just don’t realise how sexist they are. Anyway, I didn’t pay the $11 to comment, but did notice he had a few thousand subscribers and the post had all of 10 likes.
I don't follow women's (or men's) hockey, so this was very educational for me.
I also hadn't read the NYT article before. It seems to be filled with their typical pro trans bias. This line, "But unlike Gaines, whose rhetoric is defined by an anti-trans viewpoint and even misgenders trans women as “men,..." shows it well.
The fact that the NYT would lend their enormous platform and reputational legitimacy to factual errors and ideological propaganda is just infuriating. Correctly identifying a man as male is journalism. The NYT is deliberately misleading their bazillions of readers, and propagating an authoritarian anti-reality ideology
There's possibly an overlap between "blue states" (and Canada) and cold places where hockey is more likely to be popular, right? Call it harebrained but the Deep South, where hockey isn't really a thing, doesn't have this going on.
I watched Ms. Harrison's Instagram video on this after reading your post.
She actually tries to argue that she didn't want to play on the men's side because she didn't like the culture.
Really. The culture. That's funny, that never stops the men from invading women's spaces.
It's almost like she knows she's not a man and didn't want to get her neck broken by a player who outweighs her by over 100 pounds because "trans" is a fraud...
100%
Male forcing inclusion into women’s sport is bad enough.. it is so much worse when they are essentially welcomed by sportswomen who don’t seem to understand the consequences. Despite your explanation re:hockey players, it still makes me angry that some women just proudly and loudly ‘give up’ women’s leagues to men (who already have their own league- obviously). Handmaidens are the worst..
Once again, Sarah writes with clarity and humor about the ridiculousness of men in women’s sports. But as she points out, sadly, it will be the choir that reads this.
Same thing is happening with US Rowing. Kicking and screaming they have adopted a policy that contains a few loopholes, but almost says no men competing in the female category. It is written with such contempt, that the moment the opportunity arises, they will say come on back boys!
You would think the fact that men have 60% more upper body muscle than women would enter into this discussion, but apparently many no longer concern themselves with reality. Cross-sex hormones don't eliminate the massive differences in upper and lower body muscle, or the fact that men have larger hearts, lungs, and more hemoglobin.
While these physical advantages are all true and relevant, trans activists can turn fairness on its head by using pseudoscience or arguing that one particular man who claims to be a woman is such a crap athlete he has no advantage. I prefer to go upstream—he's male. Thus ineligible for the female category
For those not familiar with the NWSL (US women's pro soccer) standards for allowing females on a PED, testosterone, who identify as male, to compete in the women's league is that their T level must be within "typical limits of women athletes." But guess how they define that. It must be below 10 nmol/L, which is the level trans-identified males must meet to compete in the NWSL, a level about 4+ times greater than the actual normal T levels for females.
And do you know what the biggest verbalized complaint about these rules is? It's that allowing females to have T at 10 nmol/L provisions only applies to females who identify as men, but don't apply to "nonbinary" females. Unbelievable.
The anti-woman, anti-reality, anti-science zeitgeist in women's sports is eye-watering. And that the most vigorous proponents and policers are women is just beyond comprehension
Harrison Browne posted this on her instagram:
"Hockey is one of those sports where the culture between the men's side and the women's side are so deeply different. I do not feel comfortable playing on the men's side because of the culture of homophobic, transphobic, misogynist language and practices within that space. Could you imagine a trans woman walking into a male beer league? How do you think that they would be received?"
Female realizes males are violent, and at the same time, flaps her jaw nonstop that women should gladly accept those same males into their sports and spaces. And as a bonus, women should also not care that women like her who dope are playing in the women's league. Women's hockey should be a dumping ground for men and dopers. The lack of self-awareness is staggering
We have so many women like her in Canada, and of course our media gives them glowing news articles about their activism to destroy women's sport.
Cory Oskam: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/transgender-teen-finds-strength-in-hockey-1.1307214
Jacob Roy: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/varsity-sports-transgender-rules-1.4845864
Alex Hahn: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/transgender-university-athletes-new-brunswick-1.4185714
Right. So, while any defense of women’s-only teams is deemed a mortal sin because said defense is declared “transphobic” (not even true) and, therefore, must be challenged and stamped out because it’s evil, similarly challenging the (likely true) transphobia, homophobia and misogyny of men’s teams is unthinkable. It’s accepted without question as an unalterable reality that must be worked around. The work around? Stripping women of their single-sex sports teams. This same line of reasoning is used to strip women of single-sex prisons, because men’s prisons are simply too violent against trans-identifying males, and so those males should be allowed in women’s prisons. Gender identity ideology extends privileges to men while demanding absolutely nothing from them AS men. Women, on the other hand, are pilloried for not giving away the store. The engine of gender identity ideology is sexism.
Couldn't have said it better. Transgenderism is a men's rights movement
Yep, men are seen as unchangeable and unmanageable (except for those who claim to be women) and that's why women must accept men in all spaces and services designated for women.
Women's role is to accommodate and support everyone else. Same as it ever was. 😔
I always appreciate your posts for the well-researched content but also for the exceptional writing. Well done on another one!
Great post. Is the hockey situation re: males in women's sports really much different than women's soccer.
I'm not a big soccer fan in general, but women's soccer mouthpieces say the exact same stuff you write about, and non-compliant players receive similar vitriol from fans and teammates. Plus, soccer has a huge issue with 5-ARD DSD players that the inclusion fanatics defend are women players to their dying breath.
This is not meant to be a criticism of your outstanding post in any way; it's more of any FYI for your readers that the insanity you describe in women's hockey isn't just happening in hockey. Thanks again!
Yes, the press conference to denounce a pro soccer player who had the unmitigated gall to say women's soccer was for women does fall into the Unhinged category. So, yes, this bizarre anti-woman sentiment in women's sports exists universally. The hockey brand of self-loating just seems so widespread and virulent, it includes women (females) who are doping on T, and, maybe not justifiably, men playing in women's hockey seems even more dangerous and unfair than most sports.
All one needs to know…trans identified men “are women” (not) and so should play with the women, but trans identified women who “are men” (not) should also play with the woman. What’s good for the goose is not good for the gander apparently. Or in other words, two sets of contradictory rules for trans identified players based totally on their sex.
Here’s the thing…trans (gender identity) should not be a protected status when it comes to accessing spaces reserved for the actual opposite sex. Sir, you may choose to live as you like, but you are not an actual woman with access to female defined spaces and sports. Now get on with your life.
Not surprising that the hockey culture supports the idiocy of males playing against females. It is the least cerebral of all sports.
I find this cultural difference between men’s sport and women’s sport fascinating. In Australia in AFL it’s only the women’s game that has a pride round. Just ignore the elephant in the room that this means supporting men competing in women’s AFL (looking at you Callum). I think there’s just a single pride game in the men’s league. Weird. I was reading an infuriating article by some sports journalist yesterday about Renee Richards and AB Hernandez, to put it politely, I wanted to pay $11 just so I could disabuse the writer of his misconceptions. He had accused people of becoming irrational because a middle-aged woman was beating younger women (Richards was in his 40s in his playing heyday) and poor AB, sport saved his life and now these bitches are tryna kill him, just cause he’s a better girl. These guys just don’t realise how sexist they are. Anyway, I didn’t pay the $11 to comment, but did notice he had a few thousand subscribers and the post had all of 10 likes.
I don't follow women's (or men's) hockey, so this was very educational for me.
I also hadn't read the NYT article before. It seems to be filled with their typical pro trans bias. This line, "But unlike Gaines, whose rhetoric is defined by an anti-trans viewpoint and even misgenders trans women as “men,..." shows it well.
The fact that the NYT would lend their enormous platform and reputational legitimacy to factual errors and ideological propaganda is just infuriating. Correctly identifying a man as male is journalism. The NYT is deliberately misleading their bazillions of readers, and propagating an authoritarian anti-reality ideology
There's possibly an overlap between "blue states" (and Canada) and cold places where hockey is more likely to be popular, right? Call it harebrained but the Deep South, where hockey isn't really a thing, doesn't have this going on.
True. Interesting observation