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Wayne's avatar

Don't use Jesus' name in vain please. Don't equate Christianity w other religions please

Digital Canary πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺπŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ—½'s avatar

At least you’re being honest with your special pleading, Wayne😹

Wayne's avatar

Not sure what you mean by that. Are you mocking me for my request?

Digital Canary πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺπŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ—½'s avatar

Yes, Wayne.

What is it, aside from a fluke of where you were born, that makes you think that Xianity is any different than other religions?

Do you think that the faithful of other religions feel less certain about the rectitude of their beliefs than you do about yours?

That’s what special pleading is: you think you’re special, and that your beliefs are special.

They are not 😹

Wayne's avatar

How would you know? What makes you the arbiter of religions? Who appointed you? You don't know. I'm not speaking for other religions, but others are free to do so; I simply spoke up for Christianity, and yes, Christianity is special.

Digital Canary πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺπŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ—½'s avatar

Yes, Wayne, we get it: *you* think Xians and Xianity are special.

Anyway, I wasn’t appointed, I was *elected*:

All the non Xian religious leaders got together, elected me as their voice (very like β€œConclave”, tbh), and sent me here to inform you that you’re not special, and neither is your β€œChrist”.

Good luck policing people’s heresies on the internet

&

Let me know if you need any help with the log in your own eye

😹

Wayne's avatar

It's not Xianity; It's Christianity as it's centered on Christ. Best of luck to you.

Digital Canary πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺπŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ—½'s avatar

Oh no, I’m blaspheming!!!!

Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah!

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Wayne's avatar

Hey Sarah Barker - thanks for letting us know about your hostility to religion.

Spartacus's avatar

- how do we break the cycle of rich getting richer?

It is curious how people (particularly women) that grow up in the dominant system that has given them their fabulous wealth and privileges compared to the grinding poverty elsewhere, virtually always see INEQUALITY and think, "OMG! That's it! That's what is wrong with everything! We MUST FIX THIS!" I suspect this is because women are wired to notice people with more resources than they have, because resources are so dreadfully important for the survival of children. And when women see someone with more, well, the WANT THAT! NOW! If they already have a mate and/or can't reasonably believe they can get control of the (usually male) "owner" of said wealth? ("I want his rocket babies!!!" Ashley St. Clair.) If they can't get control of it, then they want a revolution that will GIVE IT TO ME.

First, the evidence shows that this idea of "the rich" getting richer is not really true. If you just throw "the rich" into a bin and pay no attention to the reality that who "the rich" are changes radically over generations, you are just indulging in a fallacy. Yes, Andrew Carnegie was rich. Yes, Cornelious Vanderbilt was rich. So was Roger Babson. But are their progeny equally rich?

Yes, Elon is rich, but his and most other great wealth is gained by DOING things to provide people (particularly women) what they want. Yes, the stock market is where people can buy a little part of many corporations that make the "stuff" that all those "Material Girls" want and need.

BTW - If you haven't driven a Tesla, or talked/ridden with girlfriends that have a Tesla, you will miss the fact that Elon (in his chief designer hat) is an extremely acute observer of women and what they like and want. Try it. Rent one. Even the old ones are something different. Drive the mom-mobile light SUV Tesla. Commute for a bit in a Tesla with FSD. It's finally starting to work. I had breakfast in Beverly Hills one morning with a well-off female friend who showed me her Tesla. She couldn't get over: How it responded to her presence. How the rear side door folded upward out of the way so a woman could lean get her kids out while standing mostly upright. She kept opening and shutting it.

Second, money interests have not improved their ability to suck money out of the economy---what economists call "rentier" activity of the banking/finance sector. Quite the opposite. Read Schmelzing's research on that from Bank of England. https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/working-paper/2020/eight-centuries-of-global-real-interest-rates-r-g-and-the-suprasecular-decline-1311-2018

The Bank of England has a lot of firsts (like quietly discovering the principles of Central Bank operation in the 50 years before the American Revolution) but the work of their research department since around 2010 has been marvelous. Here is another excellent paper from them.

EVERY woman in the world should understand clearly exactly how money appears in the world, and what actually regulates it. Money and its creation (or lack thereof) is absolutely FOUNDATIONAL to the lives of women everywhere. https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/quarterly-bulletin/2014/q1/money-creation-in-the-modern-economy This matters!

Here's a basic reality about inequality. In our system, wealth concentrates quickly in the hands of those who provide amazing things. Carnegie gave us steel. Lear made way cool personal jets. Elon remade electric cars so they are a real thing, and he is in the process of remaking communications and computing with Starlink and orbital datacenters. Elon has remade the launch industry. SpaceX launched 525 times in Q1 of 2024, and that cadence has kept up. All others combined? 101 that quarter. https://brycetech.com/reports/report-documents/Bryce_Briefing_2024_Q1.pdf (Notably, a female engineer who was also a cheerleader, Gwynne Shotwell, has run the day to day operations that gave SpaceX that record.)

Why does wealth do this in our system? Because the real "utility value" of the "stuff" that makes what we call wealth determines what money can purchase. Money is an abstract human invention, not a "thing" like air, water, or land. It happens because we created these abstractions called "shares" and a stock market for valuing them. And this process is the way that a different form of money appears in the world. If you notice, you will see that in corporate acquisitions, where one company "buys" another, virtually all of that is done with share trades.

Elon doesn't "have" $735 billion or $835 billion. What he has is ownership of stock shares. His net worth priced in assets is between $735 billion and $835 billion today. Next year? Probably $1.5 trillion. The price valuation of those shares has risen. That is why he is "rich". If he was forced to sell all of it tomorrow? He would destroy most of that price valuation. And that is what would happen if you were to succeed in "fixing inequalty" with a "wealth tax". You would end up destroying the system that provides you with the level of wealth that you have grown accustomed to.

Rentier activity is different. Keynes was the economist of the Depression period who tried to end most rentiers sinecures. Today rentier activity is personified in Blackrock and the Private Equity game of buying low and selling dear. This is otherwise known as "zero sum". These firms create mischief, although they also provide a buyer for assets.

Ok. I will stop there. Happy to collaborate on something along these lines.