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Digital Canary πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺπŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ—½'s avatar

Thank you, Sarah.

I’ll be agog if they respond, but witnessing to the institutional misogyny & dismissiveness is critical too, assuming they don’t.

PJ Punkhammer's avatar

Well done. Dripping water wears away stoneπŸ‘

Ken's avatar

There is no hope for society. Far too many people have lost their minds. Why is it so hard for males to get the hint that they are not wanted in female sport.

Grace Under Fire's avatar

Why do you think they care if they aren’t wanted? I suspect many rather like the fact that they aren’t wanted but do it anyway, supported by the leagues and other institutions that are set up for women. Their power is such that they get these very institutions to punish the women for calling them out. That really is quite a win for them.

Digital Canary πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺπŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ—½'s avatar

There certainly isn’t any hope if the likes of Sarah, K., and so many other brave women aren’t vocally supported by men like us β€” online, but more crucially IRL.

What Everyone’s Thinking's avatar

THE PRICE IS WRONG, BITCH!!!

According to people at the scene, none of this actually happened except for a 2-second exchange between the two women. Sarah and her one friend (I use that term loosely, which seems appropriate for describing Sarah Barker) can remember it however they want, but please stop telling lies and shitting in America’s melting pot!

Terms of endearment for Sarah Barker include but are absolutely not limited to:

Tinseltwat

Twatwaffle

Hippotwatamus

Douche canoe

Twatwaffle

Cuntasaurus

Cuntapotamus

Toolbox/toolbag

Toolwagon

has Cunty Twat Syndrome (CTS)

Cunty twattage

Cunty twattery

Cunty twatterous

Scrotius Maximus (plural - scrot maximi)

BS-aholic

Cunt-twatamus

Cunt-a-saurus Rex

Thundercunt

ICEhol

Hope you enjoyed this free scoop of the right-side-of-history’s freedom of speech, bitch!

Sarah Barker's avatar

My work here is done

Mia Ybarra's avatar

Using nasty names for female body parts is fine with you but calling a man a man isn't.

Typical of the trans ideologists. Tell us we are "reducing people to body parts" and then attacking women for having those parts.

This is exactly why we need female sports and spaces.

What Everyone’s Thinking's avatar

This article isn’t about what you say β€œcalling a man a man”. Is transphobic, hateful, defamatory, harassment, bullying, invasion of privacy and more. Trans women are women and if you are so miserable with your life that you have to go after the lives of others then I feel sorry for you. You are a pathetic individual who needs serious psychological help. This journalist has invaded and violated these individual’s lives, an organization, human beings existence in ways that has created an unsafe reality for some of the most amazing women. Learn your science and learn how hormones work, watch a hockey game, both professional men’s and women’s as well as recreational and see and learn how hockey actually works, let people live their lives without hate, or go fuck yourself. Either way, just go fuck yourself. This comment isn’t about attacking women for having those parts, this β€œjournalist” can use hateful terms and spew lies about women, the same can be done about her. You think we need female sports and spaces? We have that you ignorant fuck, this is why we need secluded islands for horrible people like you to live out your horrible existence without making the world a nasty place. Fuck yourself forever.

jane bleau's avatar

And they wonder why we think they are violent, disturbed misogynistic men.

Mia Ybarra's avatar

Nice temper tantrum.

You are not getting your way. You have no science to back up your insane claim males can be women.

You don't want women to have safety from men. You don't want us to have privacy.

Women are just supporting characters in your story, and you think you are theain character, it all revolves around you

So you scream incoherently, Insult and threaten.

And then claim you aren't a threat to women.

Of course you aren't.

Squatting Forever In Your Mind's avatar

Who's the main character? Do they have a name? Did you know that most trans people just want to be left the fuck alone? Do you think trans people want to have pieces of shit like you come into their lives and try to ruin them when they're just trying to live life?

Squatting Forever In Your Mind's avatar

Thanks for directing me to a fictional story on someone else's substack, based on some perverted fantasy that right-wing fucksticks like you want to believe could happen just so that you can be mad at trans people. Trans people do not do the things she's describing on that page! Her story is a fabrication to smear trans people! Could you at least TRY to be discerning of fact from fiction?! Spreading that false story is the same as spreading hate!!!

STOP BEING SO FUCKING COCKWOMBLEY YOU FACT-IGNORING AND REALITY-IGNORING CUNT!!

jane bleau's avatar

Nothing says feminine like calling a woman Cuntasaurus.

Squatting Forever In Your Mind's avatar

Well now we're just going to use it to describe you.

jane bleau's avatar

or you could just delete pornhub, instead.

Squatting Forever In Your Mind's avatar

Those people are saints compared to you, Jane

DulyNoted's avatar

You go, girl. Can we find who are willing to hop in and substitute as plaintiffs once the complaint is filed?

Think About It's avatar

Yet another ridiculous article written by someone who doesn’t even play in the league and clearly can’t see the situation through all sides. WHAM isn’t perfect, but there are a lot of people trying to make it a fun and safe place. You are actively and continuously trying to stir up drama and create chaos β€œas a third party” in a league where we’re just trying to play some hockey. Please leave our league alone and if you have an issue, contact the board. Keep pushing the board until they give you an answer if you have to. Writing these random ass articles degrading people you don’t even know or a league you know nothing about is just ridiculous.

jane bleau's avatar

Put the crack pipe down.

Squatting Forever In Your Mind's avatar

Jane, I don't know what just crawled up your pipe, but let us know when it crawls back out.

jane bleau's avatar

Put the crack pipe down and delete pornhub.

Squatting Forever In Your Mind's avatar

Jane, no one on this page has been talking about Pornhub except for you. What is your obsession with porn?

Sweet Caroline's avatar

As always, thank you for Informing all of us about these atrocities.

jane bleau's avatar

How many think What Everyone/Thinking/ and Squatting are the offending player? It's painfully obvious "they" are the same person with newly created accounts for this occasion. But, if not the offending player, who else would be so obsessed? If someone sues, this will come out in the computer forensics. Might lead to other data evidence discovery as well for this and other legal or law enforcement action.

Squatting Forever In Your Mind's avatar

Jane, there were at least four accounts going off on you here. I'm not sure if those other accounts are people that I know or not, and frankly, I don't fucking care. The one thing we do all have in common though is that none of us like you. Also, the fact is that I don't even know the person you did this to.

I am just a person advocating for the person you're going after, because absolutely no trans person should ever have to be subjected to what you are subjecting her to. It is simply wrong in so incredibly many ways! No one likes you, Jane, and that is a fact. Stop trying to make up for what you lack by trying to bring other people down! I would suggest you sit down and grab a nice warm cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

jane bleau's avatar

It is possible, even easy. to trace a person's postings back to their IP and their identity unless they are technologically savvy. This will not end well. Even if you delete these accounts and any other incriminating data you have on your computer/phone, your ISP (internet service providers) keeps back-ups forever. They can still provide anything you've said (no matter how many accounts you create) and anything you've downloaded. They routinely sell them to data brokers that keep dossiers on you. Maybe you should take your own advice. You are just digging yourself in deeper. This is probably going to court, where these things get handed over to the opposition.

jane bleau's avatar

I believe USA Hockey is designated at the official rep for hockey for international competitions and the olympics. This is in turn is designated by congress.

Let's pressure our reps to de-designate USA Hockey as the official Olympic governing body for US teams. Find out who their sponsors are and boycott them. Let professional teams and leagues know we won't be watching their games or buying their merch unless they put pressure on their amateur branch.

Are the rinks they use public? Another avenue of complaint.

They won't respond to reason, but they sure will to a hit to their bank accounts.

Squatting Forever In Your Mind's avatar

De-designate? That's not a word, Jane. You sound even dumber than Sarah. Sorry, Jane, none of that's happening.

What Everyone’s Thinking's avatar

Calling a trans female, who has the exact same level of hormones as any other female in the league, a man, is a transphobic, hateful lie.Β  It’s defamatory, it’s tortious, it’s a form of bullying, and it is a hate crime.Β  What you did here is 100% illegal in the State of Minnesota in which you live.Β  Apart from the tort and criminal side of this, it is a malicious invasion of privacy, and attempts to slander trans athletes as a group, who have done nothing wrong except try to live full lives and be themselves.Β  Saying that they do not have a place in our world is along the lines of what ICE is telling the immigrant community right now and exactly along the lines of what the Nazis told the Jews in the 1930’s.Β  You are on the wrong side here.Β  You will not be convincing our public that these people do not belong in our world.Β  You are going to find yourself squarely on the wrong side of history, and you are going to regret it.Β  We will not stop coming against you.Β  Your hateful and illegal speech has made you a target for all of our free speech.Β  Stop or we’ll keep letting you know exactly how the public feels about you, and there will absolutely be charges pressed against you at some point if these posts are not taken down.

Mia Ybarra's avatar

Here is the science based facts on HRT. Being female is not just about hormones.

The Impact of Gender-Affirming Hormone Therapy on Physical Performance - PMC https://share.google/Ak0oHLrwj7PvvLbJQ

dnt's avatar

trans identified males are not any type of female. they are males and always will be. youre dreaming if you think an american court is going to find speech calling a man a man in any way criminal or even civilly liable. males have a wide variety of advantages over females in sport, and should be demanding that men be more kind and accommodating of their sex non conforming brethren not invading female sports and spaces

https://suspensionreport.com/womens-rights/sex-based-rights/gender-links

MLisa's avatar

You can't do anything through SafeSport because they are just a "cover" for the sport they are supposed to be policing. I believe (?) there is NO checking allowed in Women's Hockey...only moving a player off the puck. I believe (?) there is no checking in the men's beer leagues. So dude-lady isn't allowed to skirt the rules.

If there are refs at the games, they can fight fire with fire and start doling out the penalty minutes to keep dude-lady in the sin-bin. Get in a major fight or verbally spar with a ref and get escorted off the ice for the remainder of the game.

Think About It's avatar

You literally don’t know the rules and don’t know what SafeSport is. You sound really dumb πŸ˜‚

Maximus295727's avatar

That is a great piece of journalism. Thanks.

Squatting Forever In Your Mind's avatar

Yes, this really is a polished piece of shit. Thank you for defecating all over the goodness and diversity of America.

Crimson's avatar

Your daily reminder that misogyny is not causing this. That’s not what’s motivating a women’s hockey league to allow men. It’s terrible for women, yes. But not everything bad for women is motivated by misogyny - see the massive number of women who insist there’s nothing wrong with pornography for more details.

This is caused primarily by a deranged ideology bent on overthrowing β€œheteronormativity” and β€œ the patriarchy” by denigrating everything normal as oppressive.

It’s blown up in women and gay people’s faces, yes - but it was radical sex-positive feminism and queer theory that got us here. Not misogyny and certainly not normal men. This is part of the war on all social norms by feminists and lgbtq, and now the horse has left the barn and they want to close the gate.

This is what a degenerate, porn-sick normal-hating society looks like. πŸ‘πŸ»

Mia Ybarra's avatar

Most of these men are straight perverts. It's about power. They like hurting women.

What Everyone’s Thinking's avatar

You are a fucking horrible human, just wanted you to know that. Fuck you, you fucking fuck.

Crimson's avatar

No one cares what the delusional perverts think anymore. Thank god. Women are getting their spaces back and regular people are getting our culture back whether the liberal freak show likes it or not.

Squatting Forever In Your Mind's avatar

Let us know once you get your head pulled out, Crimson. You might want to go to the ER for that. It seems really stuck in there.

You are out of touch, and if you have nothing better to do than shit all over people who just want to exist as themselves, then you really need to get a life. Seriously, go get double-teamed, lady. If you can't care enough to support others in just being themselves, then you are not wanted in or around any of our safe, all-inclusive spaces.

Mia Ybarra's avatar

Typical. You have no reasonable response. You are not getting your way. We won't roll over.

So you threaten a women with gang rape.

And still claim we are unreasonable not wanting you in our safe spaces

Squatting Forever In Your Mind's avatar

Thanks for the clinically insane response, Mia. If you knew your own asshole from the hole your people just blasted through one of our people's heads, you'd know that there's no threat of gang rape within that message, and that you people just need to get fucking lives already. Get the fuck out of our safe spaces and stay out!

Jules's avatar

Any chance you can ask POTUS to apply the EO and stop WHAM from using any sports facilities that are federally funded? I would also include the pro level in that so as to focus minds even more, that men in women’s hockey is totally unacceptable. I also wonder whether women could sue this man personally for assault/grievous bodily harm towards opposing team members or even for sexual assault through voyeurism? Otherwise, I would advise the women to form a women only league themselves and walk away - becoming a paraplegic is not a risk I would want to be taking! Begs the question of how these teams stand regarding insurance and whether he knows he may be personally liable if things go terribly wrong! Which he seems to be toying with, hearing about this aggression and his total unwillingness to rein himself in! Wishing you all the best with getting this nonsense stopped!

Sarah Barker's avatar

Oh, as to your suggestion of forming a women's only league--this is Minnesota, where women's only anything is against the law. They could call it women's only but if any man identified himself as a woman, they could not by law keep him out.

Jules's avatar

That is an awful situation! But, if a man turned up, you could perhaps leave him sitting on the bench permanently until he gets the message!!

Sarah Barker's avatar

You bring up many good points. I'm not sure if any of the rinks where WHAM plays are federally fundedβ€”I kind of think not. Owned by the city. I have always thought women/girls could sue for sexual harassment/voyeurism but I think (this is strictly nonlegal conjecture) that because these men are able to play and use the locker room according to the "gender identity" then they are considered "trans women" and not fully male. And they are there by WHAM/USA Hockey policy. Of course, sexual harassment could, I guess, be perpetrated by a "trans woman." At any rate, very very few women have attempted a legal gambit for whatever reason. WHAM/USA Hockey policy makes "misgendering" (words are violence) equally deserving of discipline as actual violence. Which of course removes women's ability to talk about rights violations. Male or not, the player who made a violent threat should receive harsh discipline. That's what I am hoping to make happen. If I have to escalate to SafeSport (not just Hockey SafeSport) I will.

Jules's avatar

Perhaps start asking questions about insurance? I would definitely be asking who is culpable and pays out when this man hurts someone! Also, perhaps they could β€˜concede’ without playing the teams with men in them so that the whole competition falls apart! (Short term suffering for long term gain?) Get male relatives to β€˜id’ for hockey matches and give him a very strong dose of his own medicine, which could also solve the problem short term! The time for being nice has passed and girls need protecting - in any way that can be done!

Mia Ybarra's avatar

The male relatives is a very good idea.

Jules's avatar

Good luck with your quest!

Ps Re: funding for the City - Trump should be asked to halt funding to any city facilities that do get that - might still be worth pursuing!

Near where I live in the UK a whole league of women refused to play as a man was injuring women badly in soccer - he broke the legs of a couple of women! I’m not sure whether there was an insurance element, but he β€˜retired’ soon after! Our National indoor track cycling team also refused to compete when a man who was still cycling on the men’s team announced he was swapping to the women’s! It was sorted out very quickly when they realised there would not be a competition - I hope this information is helpful! Remember that downing tools can be very powerful! 🀞🏽

Lisa Simeone's avatar

This is so fucking outrageous.

And all the "trans allies" out there are ok with it. They support it.

I hope every "trans ally" is confronted and threatened by a man in a women's restroom or locker room. Evidently that's the only way they'll ever learn. #NotMyFaultTheirs

Brave Female Athlete's avatar

Thank you Sarah. You are making a difference!