1. Male 2. Male 3. Male 4. He (there may be some exceptions, though I’m trying to think of what they would be) 5. Trans identifying male 6. I think the reason people are unsure what this means is because it’s designed to be confusing. It’s a moving target: the terms MTF transsexual, transwoman, transgender female and trans-identified male all mean the same thing: that the subject is male. How does someone who’s not that engaged with this issue have any idea what’s going on? In fact, understanding this jargon is the first hurdle that people need to overcome in order to gain an understanding of the consequences of our society replacing sex with gender identity.
1. I find it difficult to answer questions like this because I don't accept the premise of words like "trans woman"
2. I can live with language like "trans-identified male," though I don't love it. Regardless, his sex is male.
3. Harper is male.
4. They shouldn't, but if they do, the pronoun is he.
5. Man.
6. This is a great question and I don't know the answer. I was pretty astonished by the UK survey It shows the importance of continuing to talk about these issues!
I try to stick to one simple adage: "Men are male and women are female." It really doesn't have to be any more complicated than that.
All of the above are men but I agree the term trans women is misleading. They are not a subset of women. We been to come up with something really clear so that everyone knows it’s a man.
An absolute no to using female pronouns for a man.
What is the sex of a trans-identified male? sex is MALE
A recent article called Joanna Harper a transgender female—what sex is Harper? Sex is MALE--this is an example of the media not understanding the difference between sex (female/male) and gender (woman/man).
If media use the term trans woman, should they use the pronoun “he” or “she”? Why? A trans woman is most commonly used for a male who identifies as a woman. The correct pronouns are he/him as this person is a male (although I would honestly use someone's preferred pronouns if asked).
What do you think is the clearest way for journalists to refer to a male who wishes to be seen or identifies as female? Clearest way is a "male who identifies as a woman". He cannot identify as a female. He cannot change his sex.
Do you think when the average not-terribly-informed person reads that trans women are banned from women’s swimming, do they understand that males are banned from women’s swimming? I do not think the average readers understands this. I think they believe a male who identifies as a woman is banned from competition---this is NOT true. This male athlete who identifies as a woman is simply not permitted to compete in the women's category.
I am committed to NOT using the word gender at all. If some one uses it in conversation, as a clarification I'll replace it with the word sex or man or woman. If some one is talking about gender, the illusive inner feeling, I play dumb and make them explain it to me, and then say, yeah it doesn't make sense to me. I also see the facile use of "they/their/them" replacing singular pronouns very rapidly in popular usage. I am on the lookout to not do this ever, and correct others to clarify.
4) He 5) trans identified male 6) no I don’t think people have any idea and there was a recent survey which proved this opinion - I think it was something like 40% of the public really has no idea what a Transwomen actually means
This is a poll- one assumes the whole point is to demonstrate that generally people don’t understand what many of these terms mean and so all other ‘polls’ ans surveys on attitudes to Trans ideology are deeply flawed. 1) Male 2) male 3) male etc but many would answer differently-
4. The clearest res presentation of the persons point of view and socialization is He.
5. Same as above, with a clear identification of Natal Male, Ishiguro to live as female. If one sees a person in a non photoshopped image, it’s clear. In text I only it can be very confusing.
6. Not clear. Certainly the people I know who are all in for letting men compete with women have never played sports at a competitive level.
1. The sex of a "trans woman" is male, or at least that's the unspoken reality behind people pushing the euphemism on the popular vernacular, imagining themselves arbiters. Honest mistakes and well-formed trolling that can't be refuted without busting open the whole paradigm of "transgenderism" vs "transmedicalism" are both common enough. A straight woman paid by right-wing troll farms might call herself a "trans woman" with a bunch of verbiage that's easily on par with Judith Butler, and the woke hordes will know perfect well they're being trolled but be completely unable to mount a coherent defense against it. The whole "super straight" thing was an example of that sort of thing.
2. "TiM" is radical feminist/gender critical slang, and it's male. The point is that it sounds like "Tim(othy)", a male name. See also trans-identified-female, TiF, similar to Tif(fany), which is generally female in the current era.
3. Male.
4. It's media, they are going to use the terminology pushed by a combination of whoever pays the bills, runs the security state (ie the real state) and best suits their target audience demands. "Should" presupposes neutrality or the idea of an acceptable social construct over reality, which is just horseshit. Media is entertainment, propaganda, or both. My personal preference would be use the biological pronouns when referring to people's pre-transition past (and to get over the deadnaming ban), and in the cases of criminal suspects and especially convicts in the case of violent and sex crimes, always use the biological term. 70% of Irish Traveler prisoners in the UK did not just happen to sincerely become trans right when it became associated with perks and a shot at being moved into women's prison. At this point, even as someone who dislikes most of the trans movement, allowing that kind of blatant abuse to be legitimated by media delicacy is actively harmful to sincere trans people.
5. "Man who identifies as a woman".
6. Yes, but mainly because there's been a ton of coverage and I don't think most people would give a lot of thought to cases like Mack Biggs - "he" absolutely should be banned from women's wrestling, but that's because he's female and any non-trans female on testosterone would be banned.
Language is no so corrupted that we can't assume anything means anything, except when we see a headline "a woman flashed children with her penis". We can deduce reality there, and that newspapers are no longer sources of reality-based news.
Every liar across the world is champing at the bit in the world where their online websites have equal standing (and sometimes more accuracy) than billion dollar news sources.
And we're on the cusp of AI based news whatever that means, except "trust nothing, no one, and let the liars control you because you don't know who is who."
George Orwell couldn't have offered a more corrupted world of language than ours.
P.s. I asked AI: What is the sex of a transgender female?
ChatGPT: A transgender female is someone who was assigned male at birth but identifies and lives as a female. In other words, their gender identity is female, even though they were assigned a male sex at birth based on their physical characteristics. It's important to understand that gender identity (one's internal sense of their own gender) is distinct from biological sex (physical characteristics such as genitals and chromosomes). So, the sex assigned at birth might be male, but the gender identity is female for a transgender female individual. It's respectful and accurate to refer to transgender individuals by their affirmed gender identity.
ChatGPT A trans-identified male is an individual who was assigned female at birth but identifies and lives as male. In other words, their gender identity is male, even though they were assigned a female sex at birth based on their physical characteristics. The term "trans-identified" emphasizes that the individual's self-identification as male differs from the sex they were assigned at birth.
Reply: Actually people say Trans-identified male to make it clear it is a biological male who identifies as transgender.
ChatGPT I appreciate the clarification. "Trans-identified male" is a term that is sometimes used to indicate that an individual was assigned male at birth (biologically male) but identifies and lives as transgender. This terminology is used to highlight the individual's biological sex while also acknowledging their gender identity.
Language around gender and identity can be complex and can vary based on cultural, regional, and individual preferences. The most important aspect is to approach these discussions with sensitivity, using terminology that individuals themselves prefer and find respectful. As societal understandings of gender and identity continue to evolve, it's valuable to engage in open conversations that promote understanding and inclusivity.
It's important to use respectful and affirming language when discussing individuals who are transgender. Referring to someone based on their affirmed gender identity is essential for creating an inclusive and supportive environment. For instance, for a trans-identified male, it is respectful to refer to him using male pronouns and to acknowledge his male gender identity.
1. Male 2. Male 3. Male 4. He (there may be some exceptions, though I’m trying to think of what they would be) 5. Trans identifying male 6. I think the reason people are unsure what this means is because it’s designed to be confusing. It’s a moving target: the terms MTF transsexual, transwoman, transgender female and trans-identified male all mean the same thing: that the subject is male. How does someone who’s not that engaged with this issue have any idea what’s going on? In fact, understanding this jargon is the first hurdle that people need to overcome in order to gain an understanding of the consequences of our society replacing sex with gender identity.
Actually, I just read Kara Dansky’s answer to number 5. And I think she’s right: the answer is man
Thanks for posing the questions, Sarah.
1. I find it difficult to answer questions like this because I don't accept the premise of words like "trans woman"
2. I can live with language like "trans-identified male," though I don't love it. Regardless, his sex is male.
3. Harper is male.
4. They shouldn't, but if they do, the pronoun is he.
5. Man.
6. This is a great question and I don't know the answer. I was pretty astonished by the UK survey It shows the importance of continuing to talk about these issues!
I try to stick to one simple adage: "Men are male and women are female." It really doesn't have to be any more complicated than that.
agreed!
All of the above are men but I agree the term trans women is misleading. They are not a subset of women. We been to come up with something really clear so that everyone knows it’s a man.
An absolute no to using female pronouns for a man.
Need not been
What is the sex of a trans woman? sex is MALE
What is the sex of a trans-identified male? sex is MALE
A recent article called Joanna Harper a transgender female—what sex is Harper? Sex is MALE--this is an example of the media not understanding the difference between sex (female/male) and gender (woman/man).
If media use the term trans woman, should they use the pronoun “he” or “she”? Why? A trans woman is most commonly used for a male who identifies as a woman. The correct pronouns are he/him as this person is a male (although I would honestly use someone's preferred pronouns if asked).
What do you think is the clearest way for journalists to refer to a male who wishes to be seen or identifies as female? Clearest way is a "male who identifies as a woman". He cannot identify as a female. He cannot change his sex.
Do you think when the average not-terribly-informed person reads that trans women are banned from women’s swimming, do they understand that males are banned from women’s swimming? I do not think the average readers understands this. I think they believe a male who identifies as a woman is banned from competition---this is NOT true. This male athlete who identifies as a woman is simply not permitted to compete in the women's category.
I am committed to NOT using the word gender at all. If some one uses it in conversation, as a clarification I'll replace it with the word sex or man or woman. If some one is talking about gender, the illusive inner feeling, I play dumb and make them explain it to me, and then say, yeah it doesn't make sense to me. I also see the facile use of "they/their/them" replacing singular pronouns very rapidly in popular usage. I am on the lookout to not do this ever, and correct others to clarify.
4) He 5) trans identified male 6) no I don’t think people have any idea and there was a recent survey which proved this opinion - I think it was something like 40% of the public really has no idea what a Transwomen actually means
This is a poll- one assumes the whole point is to demonstrate that generally people don’t understand what many of these terms mean and so all other ‘polls’ ans surveys on attitudes to Trans ideology are deeply flawed. 1) Male 2) male 3) male etc but many would answer differently-
1. Male
2. Male
3. Male
4. The clearest res presentation of the persons point of view and socialization is He.
5. Same as above, with a clear identification of Natal Male, Ishiguro to live as female. If one sees a person in a non photoshopped image, it’s clear. In text I only it can be very confusing.
6. Not clear. Certainly the people I know who are all in for letting men compete with women have never played sports at a competitive level.
1. The sex of a "trans woman" is male, or at least that's the unspoken reality behind people pushing the euphemism on the popular vernacular, imagining themselves arbiters. Honest mistakes and well-formed trolling that can't be refuted without busting open the whole paradigm of "transgenderism" vs "transmedicalism" are both common enough. A straight woman paid by right-wing troll farms might call herself a "trans woman" with a bunch of verbiage that's easily on par with Judith Butler, and the woke hordes will know perfect well they're being trolled but be completely unable to mount a coherent defense against it. The whole "super straight" thing was an example of that sort of thing.
2. "TiM" is radical feminist/gender critical slang, and it's male. The point is that it sounds like "Tim(othy)", a male name. See also trans-identified-female, TiF, similar to Tif(fany), which is generally female in the current era.
3. Male.
4. It's media, they are going to use the terminology pushed by a combination of whoever pays the bills, runs the security state (ie the real state) and best suits their target audience demands. "Should" presupposes neutrality or the idea of an acceptable social construct over reality, which is just horseshit. Media is entertainment, propaganda, or both. My personal preference would be use the biological pronouns when referring to people's pre-transition past (and to get over the deadnaming ban), and in the cases of criminal suspects and especially convicts in the case of violent and sex crimes, always use the biological term. 70% of Irish Traveler prisoners in the UK did not just happen to sincerely become trans right when it became associated with perks and a shot at being moved into women's prison. At this point, even as someone who dislikes most of the trans movement, allowing that kind of blatant abuse to be legitimated by media delicacy is actively harmful to sincere trans people.
5. "Man who identifies as a woman".
6. Yes, but mainly because there's been a ton of coverage and I don't think most people would give a lot of thought to cases like Mack Biggs - "he" absolutely should be banned from women's wrestling, but that's because he's female and any non-trans female on testosterone would be banned.
Language is no so corrupted that we can't assume anything means anything, except when we see a headline "a woman flashed children with her penis". We can deduce reality there, and that newspapers are no longer sources of reality-based news.
Every liar across the world is champing at the bit in the world where their online websites have equal standing (and sometimes more accuracy) than billion dollar news sources.
And we're on the cusp of AI based news whatever that means, except "trust nothing, no one, and let the liars control you because you don't know who is who."
George Orwell couldn't have offered a more corrupted world of language than ours.
P.s. I asked AI: What is the sex of a transgender female?
ChatGPT: A transgender female is someone who was assigned male at birth but identifies and lives as a female. In other words, their gender identity is female, even though they were assigned a male sex at birth based on their physical characteristics. It's important to understand that gender identity (one's internal sense of their own gender) is distinct from biological sex (physical characteristics such as genitals and chromosomes). So, the sex assigned at birth might be male, but the gender identity is female for a transgender female individual. It's respectful and accurate to refer to transgender individuals by their affirmed gender identity.
Interestingly it got this one wrong?
Q: What is a trans-identified male?
ChatGPT A trans-identified male is an individual who was assigned female at birth but identifies and lives as male. In other words, their gender identity is male, even though they were assigned a female sex at birth based on their physical characteristics. The term "trans-identified" emphasizes that the individual's self-identification as male differs from the sex they were assigned at birth.
Reply: Actually people say Trans-identified male to make it clear it is a biological male who identifies as transgender.
ChatGPT I appreciate the clarification. "Trans-identified male" is a term that is sometimes used to indicate that an individual was assigned male at birth (biologically male) but identifies and lives as transgender. This terminology is used to highlight the individual's biological sex while also acknowledging their gender identity.
Language around gender and identity can be complex and can vary based on cultural, regional, and individual preferences. The most important aspect is to approach these discussions with sensitivity, using terminology that individuals themselves prefer and find respectful. As societal understandings of gender and identity continue to evolve, it's valuable to engage in open conversations that promote understanding and inclusivity.
It's important to use respectful and affirming language when discussing individuals who are transgender. Referring to someone based on their affirmed gender identity is essential for creating an inclusive and supportive environment. For instance, for a trans-identified male, it is respectful to refer to him using male pronouns and to acknowledge his male gender identity.
Ooops Chat GPT talked itself into a pretzel on this one. As do many Real Intelligences